Posted by The Cured Ham on Oct 12, 2011
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What is Fresno’s foodie trend, either by way of technique, food item, or restaurant experience?
Cutting edge trends in dining are covered in the Bay area pretty regularly. San Francisco had an influx of artisan pizza restaurants. Then it was the gourmet burger trend, when I could order a $22 burger at a Michelin starred restaurant. Sous vide cooking was another trend. Foaming everything was another. Some of these cutting edge ideas are technical, like in the way of foam, while some are the meal itself, such as pizza. Or more recently, the restaurant experience, by way of communal dining.
Fresno restaurant staples: cutting edge?
Cutting edge in Fresno was The Chef’s Table. Communal dining, a prix fix menu, wine pairings, an open kitchen, serious cooking techniques such as sous vide, foams, and other molecular gastronomy items. The Chef’s Table failed. Why?
The Ripe Tomato is nearly the opposite of cutting edge and yet ironically is cutting edge being rooted so deeply in the French classics of complex sauces, multiple day preparations, and exotic meats all of which are rarely done on a daily basis in Fresno. After 30 years, The Ripe Tomato is still here.
Parma and Trelio have particular items that are both classic and adventurous. Fresh pasta at Parma is cutting edge considering no other restaurant makes that many pastas per day from scratch, even though pasta is a ubiquitous menu item in Fresno. I would consider Trelio’s duck proscuitto cutting edge. Nage and veloute are staples in French cuisine, but relatively unused in restaurants in Fresno, except Trelio. Perhaps nage and veloute are just “fancy words” for chefs to charge higher prices?
Max’s and Cracked Pepper are not cutting edge. Nothing on either menu recently stands out as adventurous or overly technical. Lots of classics, the occasional French word on the menu, middle of the road American food with some twists and a greater refinement than Elbow Room or Pismo’s, but generally just solid food offerings that lean American.
Local trends: pho and tacos?
Pho has been around since the dawn of time in one form or another—it’s broth with protein, starch and aromatics, a.k.a. SOUP.
Pho has gotten more attention in recent years because of the Food Network, Tony Bourdain, and Top Chef and a crazy devotion to this type of soup. There are plenty of places in Fresno to get a great bowl of pho (see the Seven Days of Pho article). But how many people in Fresno consider pho cutting edge?
It’s been around for at least 25 years in town, considering I was eating it for lunch when I was a junior in high school. While I can’t confirm it, pho has not been on any mainstream restaurant menu in Fresno EVER, not even Dai Bai Dang. Why not? Pho is both classic and cutting edge and it’s been in Fresno for a quarter century at least!
Tacos have been around as long as people have been in Fresno I suspect, so tacos are nothing new. What I’m paying attention to is the number of taco outlets, the movement to seek out new taco trucks and talk about them, and discover them. What we haven’t seen is reaching beyond the classics of al pastor and chorizo toward the gourmet taco. How about a pork belly taco? Or a braised short rib taco? Or sous vide taco? Guess what, they’re already being served in places like Tacolicious in San Francisco and C Casa in Napa; people are lining up outside to get them at eight dollars a pop. That’s right, no one dollar tacos when the meat is 48-hour braised grass-fed short ribs.
Maybe a taco will simply be a taco in Fresno since no one will want to pay eight dollars for pork belly over carnitas. Maybe Fresno will continue to grimace in disbelief at the words “veloute” and “prime beef” in the same sentence if it costs them $15 more when all Fresno really wants is gravy and select beef. And while a $20 meal including unlabeled freezer-cold wine at a communal table at the Basque is a tradition, $90 a head with a wine pairing was a nuisance at The Chef’s Table.
Cutting edge may be cliché, but so is “Lead, follow, or get out of the way.” What does Fresno want to do with its food culture—simply follow or just keep driving to the Bay Area for wood-fired pizza, duck tacos, and Pier 39 clam chowder?
Or will Fresno lead the country with its indigenous food culture of fresh produce and ethnic diversity and the food that comes with it?
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lisachocoholic | Wed, 2011-10-12 15:35
Keep in mind that Fresno is not San Francisco - the population and average income are both smaller and it follows that there will be fewer people able or willing to spend $90 a head, or $8 for one taco. I suspect the restaurant owners know this and since they're in the business to make a living, don't take as many risks.
I for one would like to see Fresnans emphasize their wonderful local produce, and the numerous ethnic groups and restaurants, even the American ones (which does not include McDonald's).
kiel | Thu, 2011-10-13 12:50
I would call Dusty Buns cutting edge. Not only have they served a braised short rib taco like you mentioned above, but they are at the cutting edge of mobile food and seasonal offerings.
If you need more proof that they are cutting edge, you've got several restaurants pushing the City to control their operations.
The Cured Ham | Thu, 2011-10-13 20:07
Good points. I don't disagree.
Anonymous (not verified) | Thu, 2011-10-13 12:58
I would like to at least give Kudos to the Mad Duck, Eureka, who are using local, seasonal driven dishes. Albeit gourmet burger stands, they are hand forming there burgers, and keeping fresh ingredients in rotation.
It is sad that there are places in certain parts of town, that will rest on there 25 year old concept and serve consistently bad, fried food, with hollandaise out of a can. and say that everything is great, c'mon, there definiatley is something better than frozen food from Sysco and having cooks who can not make a menu item(i.e. read the 25 year old menu) to put that item out as described.
The owners of establishments need to realize that you can not make up for poor food sales with a bar,
Now is the time that We Fresnan's try and eat better, Tri-tip, pilaf, beans and roll do not make good food.
I could go on and debate this for day's, It's just sad being in the restraunt business, for many years and having lived in the Bay Area, working with talented, driven Chef's who know how, to cook, serve, and keep the numbers in order, to run a profitable business.
We the public need to embrace, good healthy food, discourage ourselves from Mc. D's, take some time, eat seasonally, and if the price is too much eat at home. One more thing,(
The Cured Ham | Fri, 2011-10-14 11:54
I hear you Anonymous. No one should eat hollandaise out of a can.
Fresno (Visalia..Pinklady)do have restaurants that are doing it better than others.
pinklady | Fri, 2011-10-14 10:59
Thanks for starting a great topic, Cured Ham.
Agreed that in Fresno area our food culture restaurant scene seems to lack imagination and experimentation (w a few exceptions such as Dusty buns).
Most friends think I am crazy in my food selections and ideas, yet they are not original just adventurous!
I do, however, disagree with you on the view of price being an indication of quality or creativity.
On a recent visit to Visalia (of all places) I was surprised to find numerous quality and creative options available and packed in the middle of the week. Most astonishing was the cost or lack of. I settled on Cafe 225 and ordered the roast duck. It was great...the portion was perfect (smaller than here, but who needs supersized everything?) cooked to perfection, seasoned expertly and served with fresh asparagus. Total bill incl wine and generous tip was under $25. The last time I paid so little in Fresno for anything of similar quality....not.
Cafe 225 was started by a Bay area escapee in '95 and is still putting out a product that reflects the community they are in as well as intersting fresh quality at very reasonable prices.
Quality, freshness and creativity do not have to be $90. That’s just pretentious.
The Cured Ham | Fri, 2011-10-14 11:51
Right on. Visalia does have an active dining scene. I was much more of a regular down there when I was in/out of LA. Dusty is showing what you can do when you cook in a van (low overhead), don't have employees (less expense), and buy great products (tastes better). They haven't proven they can scale the business...yet.
I'm glad you talk about portion size, which I didn't cover. It's a huge food cost item and directly relates to cost to the customer. There is a trend with many franchise restaurants to offer "value for the money" aka Big Portions of Cheap Food. Thus forcing sole proprietor's to either up quality (and hope customers taste the difference) or lower quality and increase portion size.
I'm a quality over quantity guy. If you had a well prepared duck I'm pleased to hear it. $25 with wine and tip?! Meaning the duck was $15/$16 and the wine $5ish.
$25 is as thin as is gets for margin on a single diner for dinner. They're betting you and others will dine out regularly. Here's what the restaurant sees: Food cost = $4.50. Labor = $6 (assuming you're there for less than an hour). Operating Exp = $3.50.
They broke even on your wine pour, as the first glass usually pays for the bottle, but not always. So they make a little money on the wine (if someone else also buys wine that day) and the food, but not much.
This is a higher volume price model with a well developed catering and banquet business. 225 has a loyal customer base (since 1995) and rent is less than Fresno.
The economics are hard to deny. 225 needs and wants loyal customers like you. They also need, they require, people to spend more on wine and food per sitting. And they require a vibrant catering and banquet business. All of these things have to work together, because it's a tough business and obviously Cafe 225 has figured the calculus on it.
Thanks so much for your comments and feedback.
pinklady | Fri, 2011-10-14 15:07
Thanks for the well put breakdown on the amount paid.
I would be surprised that the rent was lower on Main in Visalia than say, a S of Ashlan location in Fresno. Main was full in every restaurant there on a TH night with more people walking around as well. My surprised was based on my experience in V back to the 80's when my family relocated there. Main at that time was nothing; dead. It is so nice to see their success. It gives hope for, dare I say, Fresno's Fulton Mall in light of today's announcement of its future.
so... back to the main topic: creativity, cutting edge food... come on Fresnan's bring it on!
The Cured Ham | Sat, 2011-10-15 10:35
I like the Main St scene in Visalia. It's got a good vibe with the theatre. Chef Tommy Chavez used to cook at Tommy's Downtown several years ago, which lead me to frequent Visalia more than I do now (he's at Ruth Chris in Fresno now).
I think the Fulton Mall has it's own set of challenges for a future blog topic.
Fresno's unique position in the world (literally) lends itself to having world-class food.
Julie (not verified) | Fri, 2011-10-14 12:59
I like the Mad Duck -- I will have to try Eureka. I admit that even though I am always on the lookout for a better dining experience, there's something in me that also craves a dive once in a while. Looking for pizza Fresno CA friends like is pretty straightforward but I find myself going back to that at least a few times a month. Still... I would rather do that less and discover new restaurants more.